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declined to have it over susan rice. what was your view of her treatment in this whole process? >> i think it was not handled well. one of the problems with ambassador rice and chuck hagel, these signals come out saying this is who we are thinking about and you are left out there to dangle for weeks. well, if this is who you are going to nominate you nominate them and let's get on with the process. >> you feel like the president hung her out to dry? >> in both the susan rice case and chuck hagel case, if they were sure that is who they were going to nominate, i think it should have been done promptly but all these sort of test nominations that they send out there, i think just cause the media to naturally focus on it and potential opponents of that nomination just pile on. >> outgoing secretary of state hillary clinton, she is facing pressure to testify on the benghazi matter. do you think that benghazi episode is a blot on her record as secretary of state? do you think it will affect her political future? >> i don't think so. i don't know what she knew about it or didn't know a
declined to have it over susan rice. what was your view of her treatment in this whole process? >> i think it was not handled well. one of the problems with ambassador rice and chuck hagel, these signals come out saying this is who we are thinking about and you are left out there to dangle for weeks. well, if this is who you are going to nominate you nominate them and let's get on with the process. >> you feel like the president hung her out to dry? >> in both the susan rice...
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so susan rice i think will continue to do the job the way she's done it. i suspect if tom donelan ever moves on that susan rice would be a leading contender for that job and have the ability to do what tom donelan has done, which is to consolidate an enormous amount of authority and decision making. >> is there an emerging-- you may have touched on this at the top, david-- obama doctrine that might come out of this next four years? >> well, if the doctrine in the first four years, charlie, was that the united states will act unilaterally when its direct interests are affected-- think of the bin laden raid-- but that it will only act in concert with others when its interests are far more general-- think of the libya invasion where the president insisted that nato and the arab league take the lead, or think about syria where everyone has been pretty well paralyzed for the past year and a half nearly two years now-- then the president has insisted that the u.s. will not act as the policemen of the world. and when i suggested that that light footprint strategy
so susan rice i think will continue to do the job the way she's done it. i suspect if tom donelan ever moves on that susan rice would be a leading contender for that job and have the ability to do what tom donelan has done, which is to consolidate an enormous amount of authority and decision making. >> is there an emerging-- you may have touched on this at the top, david-- obama doctrine that might come out of this next four years? >> well, if the doctrine in the first four years,...
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, which is they areotology have this fight, the issue with susan rice is benghazi. that ties back to the president and hillary clinton. there is -- it's not a perfect scenario. whereas here it's you're opposing hagel and that has nothing do with me. >> susan rice went to the hill, and it did not go well. there was some sort of a dry run, and it did not go well, and there's some sense that she took herself out of the nomination as well. we can't with stand this. how much do you think hagel's comments about richard hormel, i believe, who was going to serve as the u.s. ambassador to lucks emberg and questioned his sexuality. that drew ayre from the left. chad griffin from the human rights campaign said the -- >> accept the apology. >> he has accepted the apology, as has hormel on his facebook page. you know, you mentioned that he is facing, you know, criticism from both the left and the right. >> yeah. >> how much do you think that stands in the way of a confirmation? >> you know, interestingly enough today you have a full page ad from log cabin republicans opposing ch
, which is they areotology have this fight, the issue with susan rice is benghazi. that ties back to the president and hillary clinton. there is -- it's not a perfect scenario. whereas here it's you're opposing hagel and that has nothing do with me. >> susan rice went to the hill, and it did not go well. there was some sort of a dry run, and it did not go well, and there's some sense that she took herself out of the nomination as well. we can't with stand this. how much do you think...
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if he picks susan rice? guest: there was an interview, and i think that had those simultaneously been going on, susan rice would have deflected some of the attention. other nominations, like john brennan, which is controversial in some comment -- in some quarters, and john kerry -- i was the on the want to have written about this two years ago, because i had conversations with them about my own view is that at the time we will still pursuing -- part of the defense department, and trying to purge them from military service. this is one that they were attempting to sort out. it had not been repealed yet, and hagel made his opinion very clear. i have since talked to him about this. and the ambassador has greatly accepted his apology, and in addition, senator hagel says he strongly supports lgbt families, and he has gone beyond this, like on abortion, and one of the things we do not talk about is violence towards women and women in uniform in the military, rapes at the academy, and a senator passed an amendment
if he picks susan rice? guest: there was an interview, and i think that had those simultaneously been going on, susan rice would have deflected some of the attention. other nominations, like john brennan, which is controversial in some comment -- in some quarters, and john kerry -- i was the on the want to have written about this two years ago, because i had conversations with them about my own view is that at the time we will still pursuing -- part of the defense department, and trying to...
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>> the susan rice contrast is a very interesting one for a number of reasons. one of them is that susan rice technically took herself out of contention but there was a perception that she had been abandoned by the white house. whereas chuck hagel, a ton of people not only on the political right were raising objections to hagel and yet the white house hung tough on behalf of hagel which is very telling, i would suggest. i think when you're looking at senator kerry and senator hagel, you are looking at two people who served as mentors to president obama when he first entered the senate, with whom he feels he has a shared world view. let's not forget that president obama had been praised for his team of rivals, that his having diverse voices, when he first came into office, so there's a question of whether or not he's stepping away from that. rosa brooks hasn't just talked about diversity and representativeness in the cabinet. she has also talked about deeper problems with president obama's national security team and his national security approach. i wonder if thi
>> the susan rice contrast is a very interesting one for a number of reasons. one of them is that susan rice technically took herself out of contention but there was a perception that she had been abandoned by the white house. whereas chuck hagel, a ton of people not only on the political right were raising objections to hagel and yet the white house hung tough on behalf of hagel which is very telling, i would suggest. i think when you're looking at senator kerry and senator hagel, you...
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ambassador to the united nations is susan rice. you know, again, i could go through the list. this president has appointed -- has made two appointments to the supreme court both of them women. i think that his commitment to -- >> do you think it's an unfair charge? >> i think that the record speaks for itself. >> the record does speak for itself, doesn't it? joining me now for our daily fix, chris alissa, msnbc contributor managing editor of post politics.com, msnbc's white house correspondent kristen welker and washington post opinion columnist ruth marcus. ruth, i got to start with you because of the headline writers on your column -- >> thank you very much. copy desk. >> the headline was? >> binders full of women. >> beaninders full of women. what is going on here? that is the question that a lot of people are asking. >> it doesn't look so attractive. no disrespect to the looks of it. men involved. i am not a fan of bean counting and counting up numbers of women and numbers of minorities, but it is striking and it is disconcerting and it is disappointing to see in the big f
ambassador to the united nations is susan rice. you know, again, i could go through the list. this president has appointed -- has made two appointments to the supreme court both of them women. i think that his commitment to -- >> do you think it's an unfair charge? >> i think that the record speaks for itself. >> the record does speak for itself, doesn't it? joining me now for our daily fix, chris alissa, msnbc contributor managing editor of post politics.com, msnbc's white...
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republicans would have none of susan rice because of the way she handled the been gauzy situation. -- been gauzy -- benghazi situation. if you wish to vote against him, hats off to you. mitch mcconnell has been appearing on sunday broadcasts. agel comesen chuck hege up, he will be given tough but fair questioning. >> an indian court will read out charges of five men accused of the game rape and murder of -- gang rape and murder of a student. they will also be charged with kidnapping and robbery. the 22-year-old woman died of her injuries in a singapore hospital last week. protests and vigils are continuing to deal with sexual assault. a father of the victim has denied he wanted to be named. several said the identity should only be relieved -- revealed. indian law bans the identification of sex crime victims. our guest joins us from the bureau in new delhi. it is good to have you with us. do you think the victims should be named? >> i think it should be less through the victims, and i have known several cases of women raped who wrote in their own names, gave their own photographs. it s
republicans would have none of susan rice because of the way she handled the been gauzy situation. -- been gauzy -- benghazi situation. if you wish to vote against him, hats off to you. mitch mcconnell has been appearing on sunday broadcasts. agel comesen chuck hege up, he will be given tough but fair questioning. >> an indian court will read out charges of five men accused of the game rape and murder of -- gang rape and murder of a student. they will also be charged with kidnapping and...
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i think that appointment should go to susan rice for what he did to her. he never supported an african-american. he did the same thing to shirley sarratt. i consider obama a weak president. he has no fight in him. >> bill: i appreciate the comment, derek. i'm sorry that he decided not to fight for susan rice. but i think he learned his lesson. he certainly is going to fight for chuck hagel. he made that very clear yesterday. the white house has launched a "full court press" to borrow a phrase. and i think you're going to see -- i think you'll see chuck hagel confirmed don't you igor? >> key thing is you saw apec sit this one out. they're not weighing in. that's a big help from israel's side of this entire controversy. i think they'll be able to hold it. >> bill: it will be tough for republicans to vote against a republican war hero american patriot. >> i was going to say john mccain can bluster all he wants now. when it comes down to it, he's going to look like an ass if he votes against him. >> wouldn't be the first time. >> good point. >> bill: you peopl
i think that appointment should go to susan rice for what he did to her. he never supported an african-american. he did the same thing to shirley sarratt. i consider obama a weak president. he has no fight in him. >> bill: i appreciate the comment, derek. i'm sorry that he decided not to fight for susan rice. but i think he learned his lesson. he certainly is going to fight for chuck hagel. he made that very clear yesterday. the white house has launched a "full court press" to...
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if he had picked susan rice? guest: i think that is the case it would be. it could be too tough fights. i helped host one of the meetings were lindsey graham and john mccain made very clear their views on susan rice. the moderator cut the president's response and have those simultaneously been going on, susan rice would have deflected a lot of the attention from this hagel nomination. now other nominations, like john brennan, which is controversial in some quarters, and john kerry are getting less attention. i would like to comment on the gay rights. i was the only journalist who happened to have written about chuck hagel's views on gay issues years ago because i had conversations with him about my own views that at the time we were still pursuing translators working in intelligence agencies and the defense department and trying to purge them from military service. i had a discussion with him about that and about and don't ask, don't tell. they were attempting to sort out how you would sort through. hagel made clear his support for repealing don't ask, don'
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we thought it was susan rice for secretary of state. not surprising for a president who won an election to decide to pick one or two big personnel fights. that happens in politics. think think -- the white house calculation, jim's dead right about the iraq war. if we have to re-debate the iraq war, they're on the high ground for that one and hearing criticism he's soft. normally when a democrat does that, they want someone that's tough because the criticism historically is they're soft on defense and here's a republican choice labeled as soft, soft on israel and soft coming to iran sanctions. john mccain and other conservatives say soft with the end of the iraq war and the president's comfortable with him and comfortable with the new cia chief. the president doesn't have to face re-election. this is the second term a different set of calculations and thinks he has work to do, diplomacy. they think they'll win in the end. >> i want to ask you about hagel's israel comments because he made some pretty pointed comments about israel and goin
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they were able to ding him by denying him the choice of susan rice, the u.n. ambassador to be the president's next secretary of state. they view going after chuck hagel as being one more notch in this crazy war against the president when a lot of people in the country want congress to focus not so much on chuck hagel as they want them to focus on what's happening with sequester and the budget and debt ceiling and other things that have direct impacts on people's lives. from a policy standpoint, does this come down to bush era neocon, that reminds them that he opposed the war. >> he did oppose the surge. for republicans this is about somebody whom they disagree with on policy and never liked that much in the senate because he wasn't the kind of senator that had a lot of friends, that played the relationship game at a high level. and so it's not like he has solid friendships that can help republican members of the senate who serve with him overlook their policy disagreements with him. ultimately, i expect senator hagel to tell members -- to tell the senate and t
they were able to ding him by denying him the choice of susan rice, the u.n. ambassador to be the president's next secretary of state. they view going after chuck hagel as being one more notch in this crazy war against the president when a lot of people in the country want congress to focus not so much on chuck hagel as they want them to focus on what's happening with sequester and the budget and debt ceiling and other things that have direct impacts on people's lives. from a policy standpoint,...
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. >> i think part of it is we sort of have this high-profile problem with our thinking that susan rice was the first choice for state. and then when she didn't get it, we didn't know if it was her or john kerry was his first choice. or whenever this has set up women was the minority. >> on chris jansing & company, chris had congressman charlie rangel on. i just want to play what he said. take a listen. >> it's as embarrassing as hell. we went through this with murit romney. and we very hard on mitt romney with women binding thing. in the second term, you could say people got to know who is around who is qualified in order to get this job. >> chris, i want to go with you, he's saying as embarrassing as hell. talking about this, we are in of the second term, and the president set the standard here in changing how diversity can play a greater role in broadening these positions. is charlie rangel to say this is as embarrassing as hell and there should be a deeper bench when coming to replace these positions? >> well, i think there's a couple ways to look at it, the statistics of the admini
. >> i think part of it is we sort of have this high-profile problem with our thinking that susan rice was the first choice for state. and then when she didn't get it, we didn't know if it was her or john kerry was his first choice. or whenever this has set up women was the minority. >> on chris jansing & company, chris had congressman charlie rangel on. i just want to play what he said. take a listen. >> it's as embarrassing as hell. we went through this with murit...
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very much against susan rice. i find it hard to believe mccain's going to be against chuck hagel, given the kind of bonds that they have. >> chuck hagel was against john mccain in 2008. >> i'm not saying they weren't against each other on policy matters. we're talking about a confirmation here. >> didn't he endorse barack obama? >> i think he spoke favorably of him. >> i don't think he endorsed him. >> unofficial surrogate. >> again, this is a confirmation hearing where the senate dgives deference to the president. mcconnell, around this "politico" story with quotes from mcconnell's farewell speech to hagel where he points out that hagel saved mcconnell's brother in vietnam, so we're not really sure. and singing his praises. >> that's only in the movie version. >> it's going to be hard for mcconnell to oppose him vocally here. >> that kind of sums everything up because if you watched yesterday's "meet the press," i mean, all this talk last week about the president's personality being difficult and unapproachable a
very much against susan rice. i find it hard to believe mccain's going to be against chuck hagel, given the kind of bonds that they have. >> chuck hagel was against john mccain in 2008. >> i'm not saying they weren't against each other on policy matters. we're talking about a confirmation here. >> didn't he endorse barack obama? >> i think he spoke favorably of him. >> i don't think he endorsed him. >> unofficial surrogate. >> again, this is a...
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you have people wondering why not take up the fight for susan rice and how are the dynamics different? >> as chuck todd pointed out, there are as many as ten different democratic senators opposed to chuck hagel and it's going to be up to the white house to wage a significant campaign using some democrats like senator jack reid from rhode island to win them over. the white house probably decided that they needed to go ahead and fight for chuck hagel in this matter. i've heard from the white house that the susan rice and john kerry were pretty much tied folks going in to that state department gig. president obama going with john kerry but you are seeing the white house going for a full throttled fight to get and to win chuck hagel and not going to be easy. >> mark murray, thank you so much. happy new year. see you tomorrow. >> thanks. >>> another group that's voiced opposition to chuck hagel's nomination is gay rights activists. at issue, comments hagel made in 1998 about james hor mel, president bill clinton's nomi e nominee. he was called openly aggressively gay and called it an inhib
you have people wondering why not take up the fight for susan rice and how are the dynamics different? >> as chuck todd pointed out, there are as many as ten different democratic senators opposed to chuck hagel and it's going to be up to the white house to wage a significant campaign using some democrats like senator jack reid from rhode island to win them over. the white house probably decided that they needed to go ahead and fight for chuck hagel in this matter. i've heard from the...
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not the way that they fought for susan rice. they did not fight for susan rice. they're going to fight for chuck hagel. the stories have come out already. i find it sort of interesting that they're ready for the fight. they got all of the stuff out there early. it's gone. it's past. but they're willing to fight for hagel. >> this is obviously an issue where the president his advisers, the white house has decided this is where we want to spend our political capital. i don't think it is a fight they would have waited if they didn't think they could win it. do they not think they have the votes to get him confirmed through what will be entertaining confirmation hearings. i will be sure to bring the popcorn. >> this is a winning fight for them. susan rice might not have been a winning fight. they might have filibustered susan rice. that would have been deemed a loss for them. so they floated hagel out. most important thing here, democrats getting -- barney frank criticizing hagel for his remark in 1998 about homosexuals. he's backtracking. senator charles sumer certa
not the way that they fought for susan rice. they did not fight for susan rice. they're going to fight for chuck hagel. the stories have come out already. i find it sort of interesting that they're ready for the fight. they got all of the stuff out there early. it's gone. it's past. but they're willing to fight for hagel. >> this is obviously an issue where the president his advisers, the white house has decided this is where we want to spend our political capital. i don't think it is a...
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>> well, in this particular case, the hagel nomination, as well as to an extent the susan rice nomination, which didn't even get off the ground, there are a group of these neoconservative organizations that are all affiliated to some extent with bill kristol, the weekly standard editor, that have spent a fair amount of money but more to the point have really leveraged the media and their own media platforms to make these into real controversies and to make them into real fights. a lot of people are saying, well, the fact that president obama did, in fact, nominate chuck hagel as opposed to susan rice who never got nominated, shows that these neocons are behind it. i don't think that's right. i think the neoconservatives are fighting a turf war within the republican party to make sure that the dominant foreign policy within the republican party remains a very hawkish one, and i do think we'll see some sort of squabbles on the floor of the senate or in the confirmation hearings for senator hagel to that effect. >> dana, is this hagel fight really about his views on israel, for example, and
>> well, in this particular case, the hagel nomination, as well as to an extent the susan rice nomination, which didn't even get off the ground, there are a group of these neoconservative organizations that are all affiliated to some extent with bill kristol, the weekly standard editor, that have spent a fair amount of money but more to the point have really leveraged the media and their own media platforms to make these into real controversies and to make them into real fights. a lot of...
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ambassador susan rice. the fact is, secretary hillary clinton was the most prominent woman in the president's ka cabinet. she is being replaced by a man, senator kerry. as of now, there are fewer women in the mix. >> brianna, thanks very much. kate bolduan is here with more. what are you hearing about the timing? >> the timing in terms of the confirmation hearing, i'm told that the armed services committee hopes to consider hagel's nomination by the end of this month but simply schedulewise, it could be difficult because the senate isn't in session this week or next and when senators do return, it's customary for the nominee to have a period of time, a week, a couple weeks to meet with can committee members before and key senators before confirmation hearings begin. for more on a little bit of this, we'll go to tom foreman with a sense of what we can expect when those hearings are under way. tom, you're in a place that no one gets to go. >> that's right. here in our virtual center, we're going to talk about
ambassador susan rice. the fact is, secretary hillary clinton was the most prominent woman in the president's ka cabinet. she is being replaced by a man, senator kerry. as of now, there are fewer women in the mix. >> brianna, thanks very much. kate bolduan is here with more. what are you hearing about the timing? >> the timing in terms of the confirmation hearing, i'm told that the armed services committee hopes to consider hagel's nomination by the end of this month but simply...
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one of the reasons he's stuck with hagel is he ditched susan rice. there was a sense you couldn't pull the plug on two consecutive nominees. that doesn't mean he was backing hagel once to begin with. but once the name was floated out there, it would look bad if he pulled the plog plug on him. >> is that reporting or is that -- >> that's reporting. >> good for you. the president was sort of preparing the battlefield. if there's a failure to pay bills, don't look at both sides. none of the malarkey and cliches. will that work its way into news coverage? will people begin to buy the president's shaping of the battlefield? >> well, it seems like that has happened every time. that republicans get more of the blame when we have these sorts of, you know, end of the night deals that have to get made. because they have been doing a bit of foot dragging. so he definitely is laying down the rhetoric. i think one of the things he said in that process conference which i think people will resonate with which is this idea if you go out and buy an expensive meal, yo
one of the reasons he's stuck with hagel is he ditched susan rice. there was a sense you couldn't pull the plug on two consecutive nominees. that doesn't mean he was backing hagel once to begin with. but once the name was floated out there, it would look bad if he pulled the plog plug on him. >> is that reporting or is that -- >> that's reporting. >> good for you. the president was sort of preparing the battlefield. if there's a failure to pay bills, don't look at both sides....
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the president is considering a new job for ambassador to the united nations susan rice. may become the next national security advisor if all the appointments are confirmed. we will have carried out an almost total revamping of his national security team. >> confident that judge will be an outstanding secretary of defense and brennan will be an outstanding director of the central intelligence agency. may understand that we are only successful because of the folks up and down the line in these respective institutions. the folks on the ground who are oftentimes putting their lives at risk for us. and oftentimes removed from washington and politics. lou: some members of the party expressing consternation about his election because of controversial statements on the israeli reluctance. among the reason for that concern and in some cases outright opposition. seven of the 12 republican members of the armed services committee expressing some opposition with at least three senators already saying they will vote no. senator david fisher saying, i will be a no-vote and on the floor
the president is considering a new job for ambassador to the united nations susan rice. may become the next national security advisor if all the appointments are confirmed. we will have carried out an almost total revamping of his national security team. >> confident that judge will be an outstanding secretary of defense and brennan will be an outstanding director of the central intelligence agency. may understand that we are only successful because of the folks up and down the line in...
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. >> john: before we go to break do we expect a fight with susan rice. he must have known that this would have come with chuck hagel. >> yes, joe mentioned this. this will drive a wedge in the republican party. there is not only a realist perspective in the republican party in terms of foreign policy and a neo-con one but there is a growing isolationist in the republican party and this fracture is about republican coalition. in that regard i think there is an opportunity for a fight. at the end of the day this appeals to sort of i think in many respects president obama's favorite constituency, which is the beltway media. this idea bipartisanship and this notion of having a republican sort of daddy figure in some respects filling this role is very appeal to go part of the beltway media. so i think this is--to the extent that this is going to be a fight, i think it's one that he's looking forward to. >> john: if hagel is the daddy figure then the nominee is the cheney figure. the c.i.a. boss is the same as the old c.i.a. boss coming up next. [ male announc
. >> john: before we go to break do we expect a fight with susan rice. he must have known that this would have come with chuck hagel. >> yes, joe mentioned this. this will drive a wedge in the republican party. there is not only a realist perspective in the republican party in terms of foreign policy and a neo-con one but there is a growing isolationist in the republican party and this fracture is about republican coalition. in that regard i think there is an opportunity for a...
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having lost susan rice. host: gary schmitt and steve clemons. good morning, democrats line. caller: i am a text that ryan and i support chuck hagel 100%. i do not know why our leaders have to vetted by israel. they have not been rational at all. any time somebody says anything about israel, the first thing they are labeled as anti- semitic. host: this is from the hearing that took place back in 1998. the secretary of state in the clinton administration. it is a broad overview of the middle east in the effort -- in the arab world -- [video clip] >> i have just come back from a lot of the gulf states. i came back with the following set of impressions. first of all, they are very concerned about what is going on in iraq. they understand that the problems of weapons of mass destruction and the fact that they do threaten them, that it is less visible than a cross border threat. second, they are fully convinced that this crisis has been created by saddam hussein. they are concerned about the iraqi people. which is why we support this oil for feud plan -- oil for food plan. they pr
having lost susan rice. host: gary schmitt and steve clemons. good morning, democrats line. caller: i am a text that ryan and i support chuck hagel 100%. i do not know why our leaders have to vetted by israel. they have not been rational at all. any time somebody says anything about israel, the first thing they are labeled as anti- semitic. host: this is from the hearing that took place back in 1998. the secretary of state in the clinton administration. it is a broad overview of the middle east...
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maybe it's payback for susan rice. what it boils down to regarding chuck hagel is he is hard on israel and he is soft on iran. nonetheless, there is great big ads on "politico"'s play book that are touting mr. hagel. as it turns out, they have done some checking into it and there is a guy who is a big funder of media matters who is doing the funding. he is a guy by the name of bill benter, a major donor to media matters, also a contributor to j. street. he gave media matters money to support the works of m.j. rosenberg who had been their foreign policy guy for awhile until last year when alan dershowitz was talking about he is an extremist and the white house has to walk away from him. m.j. was eventually fired from media matters. nonetheless media matters is producing content pushing hagel. >>brian: that's fascinating, that they get involved at this level. let's talk about a bigger story. what about miss alabama? miss alabama was the story because notre dame did not show up on the big night for monday night football s
maybe it's payback for susan rice. what it boils down to regarding chuck hagel is he is hard on israel and he is soft on iran. nonetheless, there is great big ads on "politico"'s play book that are touting mr. hagel. as it turns out, they have done some checking into it and there is a guy who is a big funder of media matters who is doing the funding. he is a guy by the name of bill benter, a major donor to media matters, also a contributor to j. street. he gave media matters money to...
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you had susan rice, you've had all of these way out attacks on the attorney genric holder. are they trying this with hagel? why is it no matter what this president nominates, they find a reason to fight it. >> i think this is the next front, you know. they didn't do so well on the fiscal cliff. now they've got to find another partisan opening. i think it's a partisan attack. i think it's designed to help them raise money to strengthen their party's position from the mainstream position of the president. >> governor, when you look at john mccane, for example, john mccain says he has concerns about hagel's positions on national security issues today. but in 2006, when he was plotting a run for the presidency, mccain said i'd be honored to have chuck with me in any capacity. he'd make a great secretary of state. same john mccain. mitch mcconnell who says there will be tough questions for hagel. >>> is john mccain just a bitter man because president obama beat him and he's just bitter and keeps attacking whatever the president does and mitch mcconnell is still trying to live up
you had susan rice, you've had all of these way out attacks on the attorney genric holder. are they trying this with hagel? why is it no matter what this president nominates, they find a reason to fight it. >> i think this is the next front, you know. they didn't do so well on the fiscal cliff. now they've got to find another partisan opening. i think it's a partisan attack. i think it's designed to help them raise money to strengthen their party's position from the mainstream position of...
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. >> susan rice who wanted to be looking for opportunity to implement a responsible agent to protect scenario that would succeed. so that's a whole section again, and how to become to intervene and why was is actually a good idea. the next question of course is the one everyone is talking about is where is libya headed next. you know, i think with regards to what happened in benghazi, it is still, i think one needs to take, regardless of all the chaos that is happening, to step back, go up several thousand feet and look at this process over a much longer period of time. we are still a year into this revolution. nobody really expected -- i think many libyans expected this is going to be a shorter and more pleasant experience than it has been an urban construct with a very -- at the same time, in my trips to libya over the last two years i've seen a remarkable story of people, people of ex-patriots have come back and drop everything, lucrative jobs in europe and states to help build infrastructure. the way in which the local elections were held in benghazi in may, it was excellent glor
. >> susan rice who wanted to be looking for opportunity to implement a responsible agent to protect scenario that would succeed. so that's a whole section again, and how to become to intervene and why was is actually a good idea. the next question of course is the one everyone is talking about is where is libya headed next. you know, i think with regards to what happened in benghazi, it is still, i think one needs to take, regardless of all the chaos that is happening, to step back, go...
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no final decision from president obama, but the ambassador susan rice ran into a buzz saw on capitol hill when she met with republican senators critical of her nomination. it's so common, look, if they interviewed democrats the same way, i would be all is fair in love and war, but they don't. they don't. >> andrew breitbart one of my mentors, used to say the problem with the media they pretend they're objective. look at george stephanopoulos, he's a clinton staffer. like karl rove were the real anchor on a news program. >> he run a war room. >> he was and people wonder why did george stephanopoulos suddenly bring up contraception right during the debate? he did it because that was part of the obama administration's war on women and he was-- >> and spoke ahead of time. and what mitt romney said about half the country is a spit in the face of everyday american people who know what it means to work incredibly hard and still sometimes fail to get by, these so-called victims he dismisses well, these are victims of a system that's rigged by mitt romney's backers, so they-- >> richard trumk
no final decision from president obama, but the ambassador susan rice ran into a buzz saw on capitol hill when she met with republican senators critical of her nomination. it's so common, look, if they interviewed democrats the same way, i would be all is fair in love and war, but they don't. they don't. >> andrew breitbart one of my mentors, used to say the problem with the media they pretend they're objective. look at george stephanopoulos, he's a clinton staffer. like karl rove were...
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but that's part of what sunk susan rice and making the hague el issue much more complicated. we have to just put a name out and rather than floating them for weeks. >> gives democrats a chance to get in there. doubly hurtful. i hope that chuck hagel is asked why he refused to designate hezbollah as a terrorist organization. >>> while we're on the topic of the president's cabinet, secretary of state hillary clinton back at work today. she was out for almost a month with a stomach bug and then fell and got a concussion and doctors discovered a blood clot in her head. there's pics of the first day back. they even gave her a football helmet with the state department logo. because, of course, washington a contact sport. we threw our picks on our facebook page and they're generating great responses. the facebook friend raz lemons says, welcome back, madame president. is your screen name raz lemons? >> toure, actually. >> let us know what you're thinking. >>> dysfunctional politics. last-minute short-term finishes. is washington turning in to brussels on the potomac? that's scary. u
but that's part of what sunk susan rice and making the hague el issue much more complicated. we have to just put a name out and rather than floating them for weeks. >> gives democrats a chance to get in there. doubly hurtful. i hope that chuck hagel is asked why he refused to designate hezbollah as a terrorist organization. >>> while we're on the topic of the president's cabinet, secretary of state hillary clinton back at work today. she was out for almost a month with a stomach...
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we thought on the susan rice nomination for secretary of state. he pulled the name back. the president signaling i want my team. i want my guys and willing to take bruises along the way and he thinks he will get them in the end. >> ashleigh, if you down size the pentagon politically, and that's what the president is going to do, it's not a bad idea the republicans think to have the republican at the helm because they're called soft on defense, et cetera, et cetera. when you're down sizing, have a republican lead the way. >> it makes for easier politics in some respects. let's switch to mr. brennan. this is another interesting choice and a lot of people have a lot of good things to say about john brenna. however, gler yeah, the n nomination process is problematic. the cv sounds terrific. when's the problem? >> i actually think that brennan will have a much easier time than chuck hagel. i think there are questions about how he felt about enhanced interrogation techniques as we call them, otherwise known as torture, during the bush administration. >> he didn't particularly d
we thought on the susan rice nomination for secretary of state. he pulled the name back. the president signaling i want my team. i want my guys and willing to take bruises along the way and he thinks he will get them in the end. >> ashleigh, if you down size the pentagon politically, and that's what the president is going to do, it's not a bad idea the republicans think to have the republican at the helm because they're called soft on defense, et cetera, et cetera. when you're down...
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they tried to have it over ben gotbenbenghazi with susan rice and it will all happen with the naigal nomination. >> schieffer: when john kerry ran for president there didn't seem to be overwhelming support from republicans about his record. here's a guy who was a vietnam vet and all of that but there seemed to be a different take. >> for hagel it's he as a republican going against republican orthodoxy. it's almost as if he switched parties and they're now asking republicans to support him. and when you think about vietnam and service yes we have many new people in the senate who didn't serve with hagel. but you know, less than half of the people currently in the united states senate were even old enough or they were female to be drafted in vietnam. so this is a very new generation. they don't look at that service in vietnam in the same way that maybe a different generation looks. >> i was interested the president in selling hagel used a little of the ghost on the vietnam and basically saying here's a representative of the enlisted man and arguing that anybody who is going to knock hi
they tried to have it over ben gotbenbenghazi with susan rice and it will all happen with the naigal nomination. >> schieffer: when john kerry ran for president there didn't seem to be overwhelming support from republicans about his record. here's a guy who was a vietnam vet and all of that but there seemed to be a different take. >> for hagel it's he as a republican going against republican orthodoxy. it's almost as if he switched parties and they're now asking republicans to...
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i'm very suspicious that the story that susan rice told was a political story three weeks before the election where she said al-qaeda was decimated. that is hot true. she said the consulate was significantly and substantially secured. now, we know it was a death trap. i want to know why the cia and the fbi couldn't talk to each other about survivor interviews held by the fbi to make sure we wouldn't have made a mistake that it was based on a video. the questions i'm asking are reason and and i'm going to insist on an answer. >> shannon: and we will be watching along with you as our viewers and americans across the country want the same answers. great to have you visit with us. thank you so much. >> shannon: small business other thans slightly more optimistic in 2012. the index rose half a point to 88. still one of the lowest ratings in the history. 648 businesses surveyed ranked taxes regulations and poor sales as the top three business problems and 70% say right now is a bad time for them to think about expanding. stick around. we'll be right back. s wrong ♪ ♪ i don't wanna be r
i'm very suspicious that the story that susan rice told was a political story three weeks before the election where she said al-qaeda was decimated. that is hot true. she said the consulate was significantly and substantially secured. now, we know it was a death trap. i want to know why the cia and the fbi couldn't talk to each other about survivor interviews held by the fbi to make sure we wouldn't have made a mistake that it was based on a video. the questions i'm asking are reason and and...
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. >> bill: he also could have said to susan rice, you know, susan, i understand. we may not win this battle but you're the best person i think for that job and apparently that's what he did think and i'm going to make this fight. it is important to me to have you there. >> it also makes it more important now than ever that we embrace your idea of replacing hilda solis as secretary of labor with jennifer granholm. >> bill: there you go. started right here. i even talked to jennifer. i'm going to do her show tonight on current tv. >> you should say something. >> bill: yeah. maybe i should call her madam secretary. but i haven't even asked her whether she would accept the job that i've now given her. >> just details. >> bill: charles is in dallas, texas. hi charles. >> caller: how's it going, bill? >> bill: good. what's up? >> caller: i think this issue is a lot bigger than just obama and his appointments. if you look at the united states senate, for example, how many african-americans are there? >> bill: one. happens to be a republican. sadly. >> caller: so i think
. >> bill: he also could have said to susan rice, you know, susan, i understand. we may not win this battle but you're the best person i think for that job and apparently that's what he did think and i'm going to make this fight. it is important to me to have you there. >> it also makes it more important now than ever that we embrace your idea of replacing hilda solis as secretary of labor with jennifer granholm. >> bill: there you go. started right here. i even talked to...
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nice guy and hs going to have things his way and having seen susan rice, who was widely speculated to be his choice for secretary of state, to see her have to withdraw her potential nomination, the president, i think, decided he's going to make it stick and make the republicans choke on it when it comes to chuck hagel. >> megyn: now, brennan, he's, you know, going to take over for petraeus at the cia and he's had a long history at the cia, apparently some feathers were ruffled and some weren't, whatever. but the thing about brennan,'s been in an important position, top advisor on counterterrorism to the president and he's been very absent on benghazi, on what happened to our ambassador on 9/11 of 12 when he was killed, the ambassador and three others. unlike susan rice ultimately didn't get the nod for the next secretary of state position because she did go out there on boss's orders and say stuff about benghazi, brennan didn't say anything about benghazi, does that help or hurt him now? >> probably helps him. look, he's going to have -- for mr. brennan he will have a difficult couple
nice guy and hs going to have things his way and having seen susan rice, who was widely speculated to be his choice for secretary of state, to see her have to withdraw her potential nomination, the president, i think, decided he's going to make it stick and make the republicans choke on it when it comes to chuck hagel. >> megyn: now, brennan, he's, you know, going to take over for petraeus at the cia and he's had a long history at the cia, apparently some feathers were ruffled and some...
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susan rice was too much of a loyalist, and republicans called for someone of independence. chuck hagel, however, has too much of his own voice and is outside of the mainstream. while it remains unclear whether anyone will ever be just right for the gop, perhaps a party nay sayers have forgotten the fundamental truth about this nomination. for his part robert gates, former defense secretary under george w. bush and president obama has not. speaking to hagel's nomination gates said, "while there are issues on which i have disagreed with him, such as the 2007 surge in iraq, he is a man of complete integrity and deep patriotism." he then added, "he is also the president's choice." ryan, it has been interesting to watch the back and forth on hagel's nomination as far as how -- we'll focus on republicans thus far have treated it, which is to say they all say, you know, we'll wait until the hearing. we want to give him a fair trial, but there's no way i'm voting for him. the question is out there. can he even have a fair trial at this point? >> right. we'll give hi trial first and
susan rice was too much of a loyalist, and republicans called for someone of independence. chuck hagel, however, has too much of his own voice and is outside of the mainstream. while it remains unclear whether anyone will ever be just right for the gop, perhaps a party nay sayers have forgotten the fundamental truth about this nomination. for his part robert gates, former defense secretary under george w. bush and president obama has not. speaking to hagel's nomination gates said, "while...
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the president essentially walked away from susan rice. why does he want this fight? >> it's a great political idea on his behalf. if there's a big fight over this defense pick, it's going to be between republicans. right? republicans are in disarray on a number of issues. speaker boehner just survived a confidence vote that was a little bit dicier than we originally thought. there's a disagreeance on spending and a bunch of other issues. there's disagreements on defense. there's some new republicans who say, hey, we've got to stop this kind of knee network promilitary, pro interventionism out there. those people really like chuck hagel. there's other republicans who really hate chuck hagel. let this fight be between republicans i'm thinking is what barack obama is looking at. >> chuck hagel has managed to make people e iing jewish group rights groups. as he put it, i'm a united states senator. i'm not an israeli senator. he called a nominee for ambassador openly aggressively gay. he did apologize for that. that happened some time ago. and said he misspoke. but, perry
the president essentially walked away from susan rice. why does he want this fight? >> it's a great political idea on his behalf. if there's a big fight over this defense pick, it's going to be between republicans. right? republicans are in disarray on a number of issues. speaker boehner just survived a confidence vote that was a little bit dicier than we originally thought. there's a disagreeance on spending and a bunch of other issues. there's disagreements on defense. there's some new...
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brennan, hagel, kerry, susan rice, these are really people obama knows and is close to. that's what he's trying to build for his second term. >> i want to bring in congressman adam schiff, democrat from california. always good to see you, congressman, good morning. >> thank you. good morning. >> do you think if this fight if it does materialize over chuck hagel could have the effect of taking the focus off of other things that need to get done? things like the debt ceiling? >> well, i don't think we could afford to let it get in the way of debt ceiling. we only have two or three months to get that done. that fight is getting frankly much more difficult than the fiscal cliff was. we have the debt limit which the president quite rightly has said he won't engage on that. we can't hold that kind of a revolver to the economy that way. but, nonetheless, the gop can shut down the government if it chooses. we have the sequester. so we have to deal with those issues. >> is that where we're headed? because there's been at least one suggestion by one republican that maybe a governm
brennan, hagel, kerry, susan rice, these are really people obama knows and is close to. that's what he's trying to build for his second term. >> i want to bring in congressman adam schiff, democrat from california. always good to see you, congressman, good morning. >> thank you. good morning. >> do you think if this fight if it does materialize over chuck hagel could have the effect of taking the focus off of other things that need to get done? things like the debt ceiling?...
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he was willing to take on susan rice for a while. that one ended up getting too difficult and she stepped aside but the president's got an attitude of i've been vindicated by the election and the record in the first term. i got bin laden, i wound down wars unpopular and he has a -- is looking at republicans and saying, you guys were smack talking me for a couple of years and you had the tea party in 2010 and you thought i was back on my heels but i've just been vindicated by the voters in the election with 51% and i'm going to try to impose my will as much as i can. >> chuck hagel and john kerry, the politico today, their headline story, points to how formidable these two might be for many reasons but, again, both being vietnam veterans and how this could with the president's agenda and strategy set the stage for wars in the future or the avoid answer of military footprint on the ground and the years ahead, john. >> well, i think to some degree the latter, tamron, is the relevant point here. the term vietnam veteran brings with it th
he was willing to take on susan rice for a while. that one ended up getting too difficult and she stepped aside but the president's got an attitude of i've been vindicated by the election and the record in the first term. i got bin laden, i wound down wars unpopular and he has a -- is looking at republicans and saying, you guys were smack talking me for a couple of years and you had the tea party in 2010 and you thought i was back on my heels but i've just been vindicated by the voters in the...
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rice? and now they're trying to sour the test balloon that is chuck hagel. we're just a couple hours away from the fact that he will be put up for this appointment. doesn't it look funny to have the right kind of eating their young, eating their own from a position that they would like one of their own to be in? >> you know, i don't know that they're really itching for a fight here. it just seems like whenever the president floats one of these names out there we have everybody fanning out their turkey feathers, strutting around the barnyard like they have something to say about it early on. when cooler heads prevail and if we can get to a senate confirmation hearing, chuck hagel will obviously have to answer some questions that republicans are concerned about. actually, on your network this morning on "the daily rundown" with chuck todd i think dan sino did a fabulous job explaining a couple of the votes we were talking about against israel and against some of the middle eastern issues we c
rice? and now they're trying to sour the test balloon that is chuck hagel. we're just a couple hours away from the fact that he will be put up for this appointment. doesn't it look funny to have the right kind of eating their young, eating their own from a position that they would like one of their own to be in? >> you know, i don't know that they're really itching for a fight here. it just seems like whenever the president floats one of these names out there we have everybody fanning out...
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rice and been gauzy. maybe she did it but it is not important. how do we prioritize information to make sure we see if the world correctly? is suicide that is an issue that is relevant then and now. >> one piece of good news people have become very interest in the middle east in never were before. in 1916 there were very little people and to see if there is ever such interest he said no. that is good news. by the way there are the media research institute and a group that lets you know, what is being said and put the sermon and a mosque are in school curriculum, entertainment television they shine a light on the middle east. now we don't have to rely on just a few sources or outlets. many people have been struck by curiosity. one independent journalist has devoted his life to find out. it is because of necessity. he did not ask for it is used to be very few people knew. who thought about the kurds? we used to know lot about south africa now the knowledge has faded. at least with me know the semi experts,
rice and been gauzy. maybe she did it but it is not important. how do we prioritize information to make sure we see if the world correctly? is suicide that is an issue that is relevant then and now. >> one piece of good news people have become very interest in the middle east in never were before. in 1916 there were very little people and to see if there is ever such interest he said no. that is good news. by the way there are the media research institute and a group that lets you know,...
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first of all, remember, he sort of side-stepped that susan rice issue. republicans said they'll give him a fair hearing. he tried to reach across the aisle. we've seen him do this in the past and get someone who is a republican or a former republican lawmaker in the administration. it would give his administration the bipartisan tone he's going for. he's a vietnam war vet. he won the purple heart. obviously has some credentials behind him to help him lead the defense department. also a lot of questions ahead in these confirmation hearings. >> last question, tracie, before we let you go. if hagel is not confirmed, who is the backup? >> reporter: there were several other people we understand on the short list. the number two ashton carter at the defense department. there were backups and other people on the short list. obviously the president thinks he can get through this confirmation process. we don't know what that will happen. >> thanks so much. >> we're following a developing story overseas this morning. we have new video of google executive chairman
first of all, remember, he sort of side-stepped that susan rice issue. republicans said they'll give him a fair hearing. he tried to reach across the aisle. we've seen him do this in the past and get someone who is a republican or a former republican lawmaker in the administration. it would give his administration the bipartisan tone he's going for. he's a vietnam war vet. he won the purple heart. obviously has some credentials behind him to help him lead the defense department. also a lot of...